at dusk 
   moths gather 
to the painting

—Ross Clark

About the author: Ross Clark
Brisbane, Australia
rclarkbard at yahoo dot com dot au


Responses to the haiku for 2 July 2003 by Ross Clark

    Jon Summers (SummersJ at Logica dot Com)
    2003-07-03 03:27:12

    Liked this one a lot - very simple, but painted a beautiful scene in just a few words.

    bob richardson (orgbob at webtv dot net)
    2003-07-03 06:21:18

    ross, i could not tell whether i enjoyed this piece or not; the reason being, i was filled with too many questions relating to "the painting".

    i was busily providing answers to "the painting", rather than appreciating your creation on the whole.

    bob richardson (orgbob at webtv dot net)
    2003-07-03 18:42:41

    after having been assaulted all day by the thought of "the painting", i am still at a loss as to the nature of this "painting".

    was it freshly painted.

    was it a scene involving the infamous light.

    was it the smell of the canvas.

    i am trying to relate to the, i use a word that may bare a reasoning, possibility of it being a "pheromone"; thanks curtis.

    at this point, if only to lay my thoughts to rest, ross might add some insight.

    mind you, it is a moment, possibly, could have even been a haiku moment, if it were not for the lack of understanding of the attraction, not in so many words, but in words that don't create a mystery.

    again to be cont.

    bob richardson (orgbob at webtv dot net)
    2003-07-03 19:25:08

    waitings over...

    i think, an extra word or two may have shed some light, or even an "ah ha" or two, on this twilight fling, followed by an "oh yeah, i've experienced the moment, in my lifetime"; however, the thoughts that come to mind are, huh, when, where, why, how come, and /or what is it...

    and i express my ponderance in layman terms, so all who might read them, might understand them...

    many may enjoy the haiku, however how many fail to understand such terms as renga, hokku, kigo, shasei(this i enjoy most, because the haiku reminds me of a sketch), or how the haiku presents scenery that's idealized rather than being realistic, though it was drawn from realism, traditional and free form haiku, and so much more.

    the haiku world has been shocked "a few" times before.
    i feel the approach of another tremor.

    to be cont.
    one more time...

    bob richardson (orgbob at webtv dot net)
    2003-07-03 19:32:09

    through it all, the haiku is never a mystery, nor comes across as been pretentious...
    only those who want the haiku to remain unchanged, the way they, personally, have enjoyed it, are the pretentious ones, do they not realize, today, we are the "johnnies-come-lately", either to contribute or simply be one of the readers, who happened upon the haiku.

    don't get bogged down by terms, first enjoy the haiku for what it presents...
    life in an, all-too-often, overlooked state, as it leaves our minds and mouths ajar.

    last footnote:

    c. todd, "ponderance", this is not another word i made up.

    2003-07-05 10:40:04

    The painting doesn't need to be explained. It's part of the mystique of the haiku. It reminds me of an old musty church in some little Spanish town. I liked it.

    bob richardson (orgbob at webtv dot net)
    2003-07-05 18:03:34

    perhaps there was a misunderstanding to my request on an explanation about the painting. even if the author didn't have a clue as to why the attraction, this could have been easily woven into the haiku. i believe your usage of the word "mystical" hits close to the understanding i was trying to obtain from ross, though i prefer the word "mystic"; within something bearing a mystic air there can be found knowledge and satisfaction. i was delighted when he provided me with the answer; he simply didn't know what the attraction was, he happened to have been a lucky observer.
    however, going back to my word, "mystic", i like this definition: hidden from or obscure to human knowledge or comprehension.

    mystical: beyond the scope of human experience; pertaining to a spiritual event, relating to a spiritual communication.
    this may be true, yet a haiku never reflects this meaning.

    your word and mine are related, while being separated by a thin line.

    a continuation...

    bob richardson (orgbob at webtv dot net)
    2003-07-05 18:16:22

    moving forward...

    even in something being "spiritual" or "natural" there is this kinship between the two words, and both being a mystery to man.

    back to the haiku

    a minor case in point:

    at dusk
    moths mystically gather
    at the painting

    i feel you missed my expressing "i liked it also", though my mind was hindered by the structure of the last two lines.
    from mystically's insertion, i could relate there was no knowledge as to the why, nor reason to know why. the mind could then venture forth on an accurate portrayal of the haiku, and "my" being able to savor the moment, as oppose to becoming mired by the raising of an "accidental question" ...

    "accidental question", another phrase i made up to serve my purpose.

    "in my opinion" the haiku is never a mystery, certainly never ever "mystical", even though it may exhibit a mysterious event; there is a difference.

    2003-11-20 20:08:07

    liked this one - it must have been one bright painting to attract the moths...

    john tiong chunghoo
    2003-12-31 22:43:53

    drunken dance
    after the rain

    bob richardson (orgbob at webtv dot net)
    2004-06-26 19:43:28

    lepidoptera -
    worn and torn
    a new wardrobe is in order